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PostSubject: Not A Job   Wed 23 Mar 2011, 20:51

Just been flicking around YouTube - and honestly thought I'd clicked on the wrong song, first time I've heard it.

Can anyone tell me anymore about this arrangement of a song I've played a lot recently and gone from being totally non plussed by it, to liking.

Don't like this version, I must say..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c27xUxK63mU&feature=related
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PostSubject: Re: Not A Job   Wed 23 Mar 2011, 23:30

Personally i think this is the best song on Cast of Thousands
I cant count how many times i've found myself humming/singing along to the chorus quietly to myself.

I do agree that the album version is a lot better than the version with the video
The video version seems like they've almost tried to commercialise it, and as a result made it worse.
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PostSubject: Re: Not A Job   Thu 24 Mar 2011, 00:16

I don't know why the song was arranged differently for the video, and I don't think this mix was ever released commercially. It doesn't really "fit" the Cast-era; maybe that's why the song wasn't released this way.

I'm not opposed to it, though. I'm actually liking it, and the more I listen, the more I like it. There are some interesting sonic things going on. Even though it sounds a bit more commercial and a bit un-Elbow-like (I keep thinking it sounds like an R.E.M. song or a Wallflowers song), this mix works for me as an Elbow song. I don't think of Elbow as a guitar band (no offense, Mark Potter!), which is why the prominent guitar work stands out so much, but it's a compelling and creative guitar line. I'm also impressed with the echo effects on Guy's vocal in the chorus; it lends the song an air of unreality that matches the ambiguity of the lyric ("The dream again nobody understands").

I've always loved "Not a Job" (I put it in my "top ten Elbow songs", after all), and this version is making me discover unexpected things in an old friend.

Yes, I do like this mix. I'll take it over the Deadly Avenger Divine Wind mix any day. Smile

ETA: It appears that the video features a special radio mix the band did. I'm going to have to track that CD down....
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PostSubject: Re: Not A Job   Thu 24 Mar 2011, 06:46

Prefer the album version but interested to know more about this version. Was it ever available on CD?
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PostSubject: Re: Not A Job   Thu 24 Mar 2011, 13:26

As a promo CD to radio stations. Look here.
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PostSubject: Re: Not A Job   Thu 24 Mar 2011, 14:12

Wow I remember seeing the video way back when but never realised it was a different version! Rolling Eyes It's probably because I wasn't too keen on the sound/vibe of this on COT anyway, and only realised what a good song this is when they released an acoustic version on a B-side, which I love.
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PostSubject: Re: Not A Job   Sat 02 Apr 2011, 20:12

So, I've acquired the promo CD of the radio edit of "Not a Job." And it is the version of the song in the video.

The only song on the CD is "Not a Job." It runs 3:49.

Credits on the CD sleeve read as follows:

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music by elbow
words by guy garvey
co-produced by ben hiller for 140dB and elbow
additional production by mark 'spike' stent
mixed by mark 'spike' stent
programming - les groves
2nd assistant - rob hoggett
assisted by david trehearn
published by salvation music

The first three are the same credits from Cast of Thousands. The rest -- Stent, Groves, Hoggett, and Trehearn -- are new.

The more I listen to it, the more I really like this mix.
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PostSubject: Re: Not A Job   Wed 06 Apr 2011, 15:13

I am not sure if I love the video mix yet. I agree that the guitar makes an interesting contribution on this version, and it's quite good, but I am hearing a conscious attempt to steer it into chart-band territory with that being emphasized so much. It gives it a real radio-friendly sound, but it removes a wee bit of the original charm. The Wallflowers reference was not too far off base at all - I can totally hear that in places. Definitely a cool find, though - thanks for posting the vid link, MBV, and for all the info about this mix, Allyn! Very Happy
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